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An addiction
32561 a view of God
The Western countries
32562 It's burning
The Negev....
32563 Anti-Semitism
The misuse
32564 The Karaites
Part 2
32565 Is Britian changing
Is it really?
32566 Part 3
The Karaites
32567 Britain
Slowly changing
32568 Sliding back?
The 30tier years
32569 Part 4
The Karaites
32570 non-Jews included
32571 in the past.
Back to the future
32572 Part 5
The karaites
32573 Or hit him with the sword
Shall I beat him with a whip
32574 Follow the first reason
To follow the rest
32575 Confession
A brave outspoken
32576 walking to Christ
A small step
32577 The message
32578 The Corinthians
32579 The two Messiah's
David or Joseph
32580 By the grace of God
To be saved
32581 a naste web
we did weave
32582 Celebrating the birth of Christ
Midwinter holiday or....
32583 History
32584 Climate change
The IPCC indication to
32585 Anti-Semitism
Common sense or......
32586 The first wave
32587 chips of the first creation by man
Bible, Torah, Quran
32588 There is evil
In the darkness
32589 The US/UK want to rule the world.
O, what a nasty web we weave
32590 Ignored by Israel, US/UK.
Thou shall not kill
32591 A God's gift
Our free will
32592 from which angle you look at it
It is a creators story
32593 The old question
Will they see?
32594 It is the creators story
From which ever side you look
32595 An old question
Do we have an answer
32596 Lemuria
No: 3
32597 a balancing act
The Genesis story
32598 a believe or a confession
32599 and moraly corrupt, NATO
USA led
32600 Creating a beginning
Controlling people
32601 according to the bible
The bible
32602 against the words of Christ
For the love for Israel
32603 Genesis
Balancing the story
32604 Changing world
A look at a
32605 A small step in time
32606 web we weave in Belarus
What a terrible
32607 Indeed
A changing world
32608 in a changing world
32609 of Jesus.
For the love
32610 The scientists
The bible according to
32611 USA army extention
NATO the
32612 least among the leaders of Judah
You are by no means
32614 Free speech
We have a God given
32615 Into the light.
From the darkness
32616 Evolution
Creation or
32617 for Christ
All for the love
32618 or just a little bounce
Big Bang
32618 The return
Davids Message
32619 to be learned
A lessen
32620 The rule of Thump
Billions of death or,
32621 the wind blows
The lord
32622 suffering at the hand of God
All those who do not believe
32623 In the beginning
32624 Judiasm
The three branches
32625 re-told
An Old story
32626 A humanist
John Calvin
32627 and blamed on others.
Gods beginning. How to tell a story
32628 The foundation of
32629 Ulrich Zwingly
The history of
32630 The Messiah
32631 What have we learne from
32632 non-belief
The atracted alternative
32633 a curious event
32634 The real view.
32635 But are they?
Remember the laws of God
32636 God
We do acknowledge
32637 Adam the first man
The Hebrew creation
32638 Even as a humble Christian
U are needed.
32639 warning
A danger
32640 Only the smell of Greed, power and Control count.
For the West
32641 the prophets
32642 an atrachted alternative
32643 Jewish people
A invention
Was there really?
32645 in endless fear
Looking at it
32646 Ararat
A mountain to climb
32647 A reality?
A floating child
32648 Gods beginning
A new beginning
32649 a holy wonder
32650 your own windows
When you throw in,
32651 Atheists the religion
A clear view on,
32652 on a planet full of water
Not a drop to drink
32653 Christians
When Christians stand against
32654 John Calvin
A view at
32655 not answered
The questions
32657 on the warpath. no1
32658 war path. no2
America again on the
32659 of the Final words
The first
32660 Christianity
The basics of fear
32661 a gods creation
32662 entslaving countries
A real American game
32663 or maybe in another million of years
The end is near
32664 the fears of Christianity
The final word
32665 Be good of cheers
A ship sailed
32666 a good spirit
Gods fear
32667 A good home
For a child
32668 The holy word
A close view
32669 Supernational
Viewing the
32670 religions
The Abrahamic
32671 the Abrahamic religions
Gay and
32672 Where they or.......
The fallen angels
32676 The UN abolished
Israel on the war path wants......

32594 It is the creators story

We have seen over the years when exposed to reality the weaknesses of the creator’s theory, for the bewildering of suggestion, re-written and altered and re-written beginning of the bible.

However let us turn to that bible for more information. We Learn that the Great Assembly a two and a half thousand years ago in meeting to create a history and a religion for the Hebrew population, managed to fit together a series of patriarchal leaders dating back to the presumed Adam and Eve.

As God himself said he created man and man needed a woman so he created out of Adam a woman.

We also know that Eve had her first born son and said see I have a man from God.

We also know from the same bible that he had a brother and that this brother was brutally murdered by his eldest brother.

That brother was sent away. What the bible does not explain how it was possible that Cain suddenly found a wife. A wife that must have parents. If we presume that Cain and his wife were more or less of the same age take or give a couple of years, then the parents of his wife must be more or less giving or take a couple of years, been of the same age of Adam and Eve. If we know from the bible that God created Adam and Eve in adult form, and that there is in the bible not a word about other human creation, then we have to presume that those parents of the wife of Cain had followed to normal process of being born and raised to adulthood.

If that is the case and the bible does not give an explanation, then the parents of the wife of Cain also must have parents, who were born out of parents, who again were born out of parents.

As we also know that Cain build himself a city, and if we may presume that in that city were more people then only Cain, his wife and her parents, as we also know that, there were no cities build before 3500 BC then we must have a miracle of enormous proportions.

Here we have a man born out of Adam and Eve, who find himself a wife. If we for the example presume that this wife was the only female around. However, we know that tribal compounds around the time the Hebrews set as the time for Adam and Eve had several hundreds to several thousands of inhabitants.
Then we may presume on the bibles own instigation that at the time Cain found his wife, that there was not just his new found wife but at least an couple of hundreds humans more.

To put it simple, were the heck did they come from. The bible does not give an explanation.

Now we can do as the creationist do, count all that is written from genesis till the last word of revelations, if they disregards all what they cannot use and only use the parts they can fit, then maybe it would be possible to find an explanation. It is what they are doing to create an explanation as they do for other parts of the bible. After all the creationist have been proven to be better than everyone else to change, alter and re-write all they do not want or does not fit in their vision.

However, they in their eagerness to prove a point that does not exist, they forget that the Great Assembly did not know about John, Paul in fact they did not know any of the many writers of the new testament. Many of the writers of the New Testament also never have known the man Jesus.

Still they managed to tell us exactly as what he has said, and what he told them what we should do. Better still they received many of those massagers in their dreams. We all know that what you dream is not what does happen in reality, but is merely fantasy. Fantasy in relation of underlying wishful thinking or desires.

Then again you can make money out of fantasies, look as real writers such as Tolkien.

However let us go back to the beginning, in the time that God created all within six days.

What are we to make from that statement? We know now that there are creationists who have severe doubts about that creation story and that are what it is just a story. We have now already renowned creationist who casting doubt over the Hebrew Bereshit story, casting doubt over the word Bara meaning create, but that is now transformed into forming. We have others who say that the world creation must be seen over a much longer period.

They say that the Great Assembly only said 6 days and the 7th day as rest to make it clear to the people that they should be working 6 days but on the 7th day they could rest. In that contest the 6 days were done for the convenience of the people.

The creationist have made it themselves much more easier, if the old testament does not explain it then take selected phrases from the old and the new testament take the best suited parts and fix a likely version together. That is what is called creation, and the ones who are doing just that creationist.

After all it is not the bible that is central here; it is the word in it that must attract the masses.

In fact that story of Adam and Eve is so full of holes that it looks like an emmerthaler cheese.

However leave it to the creationist and they will find words, link them together with other word that are than linked again with complete different parts of the bible. That way they will find something to make the masses believe that what they are saying is correct. However to read those correct words they have to pay first.

By charging for the word and the explanation of the word itself becomes a sales object and therewith the object of the sales pitch maker, enter the creationist.

That Adam and Eve were not alone on Earth is sometimes regarded that we should read that Adam and Eve were the only ones in the Garden of Eden.

With that the suggestion is made that there outside the garden were more humans, hence that it was easy for Cain to find a wife.

The bible in his original Hebrew form however does not reveal this, nor is there any mention of it in real terms or by suggestion.

That God was not alone is also clearly stated in the bible, so was it God who did the creating or did he had his many sons do the work.

The Creationist will us have to believe that those sons were angels, not real sons. This however contradicts again the bible. The bible clearly states that the sons of God came down to earth to take the women for themselves. No ghosts here as is so many time suggested, no divine sons of heaven, no spirits,
Just sons who wanted a woman and simple took them.

Maybe it was the Giants who were on earth that were the angels or the opposites of God.

It will be obvious that the creationist needed something to scare the new believers to keep them believing. And there it was the Devil!

Here they throw in their own figural windows.
God is all-powerful and good.

He is either all-powerful or just a normal deity.

If he is all-powerful then there can be no challenge to him, being all-powerful.

If he is a normal deity such as in the Gilgamesh epic, then of course there is the possibility of other deities wanting to have part in everything.

Nowhere in the Old Testament is the mention of angels; the first salesman of Christianity invented them. The Old Testament speaks about sons of God in Genesis, in Job; it speaks of archangels in Daniel, the book of Enoch, but not in Job.

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